Jevon Holland – December 19, 2022
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Monday, December 19, 2022
S Jevon Holland
(So the neck, you went back into the game with a neck roll right?) – “Yeah, I went into the locker room, got that Bobby Boucher out there and then come back out and help the team.”
(How was it playing with that neck roll or with the injury?) – “Playing with the neck roll was kind of difficult. I couldn’t look left or right. I had to turn my shoulders and whatnot. It’s just something you’ve got to do though. The times call for what the time is called for and I had to do what I had to do to get back on the field.”
(How are you feeling now?) – “I’m feeling straight.”
(What were you feeling when it first happened and will you continue to wear the neck roll?) – “I had come down and hit somebody and then just happened to get a stinger and my arm was on fire. That’s why you saw me running off the field pulling my arm sleeve down because my arm sleeve was on fire. Then I had the neck roll on. When they first told me in the training room that I had to put a neck roll on, I was obviously against it. I was like, ‘Nah, I’m not trying to do that. I’m not trying to look like Brock Osweiler.’ (laughter) But then I was like nah, forget it. I might as well, if that’s what I got to do. So I came out there in a neck roll and it just is what it is. Man coverage was kind of hard because I couldn’t really turn my head or anything like that. But other than that, it’s part of the game. More equipment. It is what it is.”
(What is it like to play behind DT Christian Wilkins and is there a difference this year and in previous years? Defensive Coordinator Josh Boyer said his snap percentage went up from about 60 percent in previous years to 80 percent now because he plays the run and pass so well. What do you notice about Christian as a player and as a person?) – “I’d say as a player first, Christian is probably the most schedule-based and process-based individual we have on the team. You see him doing the same thing day in and day out, week in and week out. He continues to organize himself accordingly so he’s always ready for game day. And even on game day, he does the same thing over and over again. So I always know he’s going to be locked in. I always know he’s going to be prepared to go out there and play at 100 percent, at 110 percent. As a person, Christian is by far one of my favorite people in the building. He’s always bringing you a positive attitude. He’s always ready to attack the day and joke around when you need to joke around. He’s a hell of a competitor but a better person.”
(You’ve called out the fans on Instagram live about them switching up. What is it about the difficulty of pleasing this fan base and when you win, you win, and when you lose, they’re hard on you.) – “It’s not so much for me personally, because people don’t waver regardless. I was on Instagram live on my other account but I was mainly talking about people on Tua (Tagovailoa). Tua has been balling all year. We’re in the NFL, which everyone is getting paid for a reason because everybody is an elite competitor. So there are going to be games where sometimes the other guy getting paid on the other side of the ball is going to have an advantage and gets the best of an individual. So when Tua is out there balling and doing his thing, he’s getting all the love but he has one (rough) game and now he’s the worst quarterback in the league. That’s just something that irritated me. You’ve got to have faith in somebody. You’ve got to believe in somebody. Because like we have throughout his whole time here, we’ve believed in him. We know what he can do and you guys see what he can do, because he is a hell of a player. He leads us on the field and off the field. That was basically that. It wasn’t anything for myself personally or nothing like that. Somebody asked me if I was going to cry or something. I was not going to cry. I was just laying down because I was laying down and laying on the floor, kind of side chilling or whatever … Tua is our guy. It is what it is.”
(You’ve never had the full defensive backfield this year. Huge losses with CB Byron Jones and CB Nik Needham and S Brandon Jones. Have you ever wondered, in a quiet moment this year, if we had everybody, how good of a group we could be in the defensive backfield?) – “Yeah, sure. You can play if games. You think about it all the time. You see those guys around the facility and of course I miss Nik, Byron and B-Jones (Brandon Jones). But we’re playing with who we got and I believe in those guys who we got and who have stepped up. You see them going out there and giving their all. So definitely.”
(I know this isn’t why you play the game but I remember back in training camp this year when you made the statement that you wanted to be feared, which to me, sort of correlates with respect. In that vein, you wound up in No. 2 in fan voting at safety for the Pro Bowl. Does that mean anything to you? Does that tell you that you’re starting to get that level of respect in your young career?) – “Yeah, I would think so. I think it’s pretty cool that people respect me. I respect them. If they give me respect, I’ll give them respect. (laughter) But yeah, I think that’s cool. I think for me, personally, recognition is dope, especially from peers and people that are elite competitors that compete at such a high level and you watch them throughout your whole life, even as a young kid. Like after the game, I’m looking around looking to say what’s up to players that I’ve seen and like (Stefon) Diggs came up to me and said ‘Yo, great game.’ So me, going to find them and them walking up to me, at the same time, that’s always something that I’m like, ‘Damn, that guy is sweet.’ Jordan Poyer, the same thing. Taron Johnson, the same thing. Seeing that kind of stuff and people coming up to me kind of gives me like, ‘Damn. Cool.’ I respect them but they also respect me and they say me as a good player in the league. That’s what I want. I want to be respected and I want to be recognized; and if I’m recognized and I’m respected, that means I’m playing well. And I’m going to continue to try to play the best I can because I want to be the best. If you’re competing at this level and you don’t want to be the best, then you’re just floating. I’ve got a direction and I know what I want to be. But that is definitely cool, for sure. That is definitely cool.”
(You’ve known S Verone McKinley III for a long time. How have you seen him grow just since the time he got here as an undrafted rookie to now?) – “Confidence and maturity, for sure. Definitely. He’s back there having to kind of control the helm now. He’s back deep at free safety and I see a lot of what I did last year in what he’s doing now. It’s funny being in the position that I’m in watching him go through what I went through last year, trying to give him the little pieces, ins and outs of how he can improve himself and how he can help me improve myself along with him, playing together. It’s kind of weird because usually in college we were free safety and nickel but now we’re like free safety and strong safety, so we’ve got to be even more in-sync than we were before. I love that he’s out there and he’s doing what I was doing and doing what everybody else is doing on their field, which is living their dream playing in the NFL. There’s nothing better than being able to say that you were going to do something as a kid and then going out there and doing it. And he’s doing exactly that, at a high level too.”
(So to clarify, the neck is fine? But the neck roll was worn because an arm injury?) – “My neck is fine. Spinal cord looks all good and everything is straight like that. It was just preventative and you want to make sure that you’re taking care of yourself and being protective. I might rock the Bobby Boucher. (laughter) I might have to do it. I don’t know. We’ll see.”
(You have the nickname Snowman. I’m just kind of curious where did that come from?) – “It’s actually very simple. So on the iPhone, the emoji of the snowman looks like a No. 8. I wear No. 8. Plus, I’m from Canada. So like in special teams meetings last year, Coach (Danny) Crossman was like ‘Snowman!’ Then Mack Hollins called me Snowman in a podium interview like this and I just ran with it. I was looking up who was the Snowman and I think it’s like a UFC fighter or something like that. Isn’t Brock Lesnar the snowman? And Jeezy too. Shout out Jeezy.”
(Some players talk about one game at a time and focus solely on that game but the playoffs are looming. I’m wondering how do you balance that excitement of the playoffs with focus on Green Bay. Is there room to think about playoffs or is it solely Green Bay right now?) – “I mean we’re about to go play Aaron Rodgers. I played Tom Brady last year. We’re about to play Aaron Rodgers, who has been in the league for years and arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play. So what more do you have to focus on? This is a huge challenge, especially for me. This is Aaron Rodgers that we’re talking about. It’s AR-12. He’s the guy. I’m excited. Definitely. It’s Aaron Rodgers, bro. Discount double-check. The whole cheese head thing. Playoffs are playoffs. I’ve never been to the playoffs so I wouldn’t know. But it’s going to be what it is. That’s my mindset. I’ve just got to focus on what I can focus on and what I can control, and what I can control is today, right now, and focusing on how to slow down Aaron Rodgers. That’s all we can do. Playoffs is going to be what they are.”
(How much do you focus or get hyped about matchups with a quarterback? QB Lamar Jackson is a former MVP. QB Josh Allen, QB Aaron Rodgers, QB Tom Brady. As a player, do you really get fired up? And then as a football fan, do you also get fired up?) – “Yeah, absolutely. I mean these are people that I’ve been watching for (a long time). I’m a football fan. I love football, both watching it and playing it. So playing against guys that are elite competitors is fun and being able to try to break down and slow them down and things like that. Like game-planning against them is even more fun. Playing Josh Allen is probably some of the best fun I have because he’s such an elite competitor and he’s a physical matchup on all levels. He’s a runner. He’s a passer. Lamar Jackson, too. He’s electric, so how do you stop somebody like that? That’s the mindset that I have and I try to approach that still as a fan but also as a competitor. I try to take advantage of their flaws but also realize that these guys are paid at a high level too and it’s going to be a challenge. I’m excited for that challenge.”
Christian Wilkins – December 19, 2022
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Monday, December 19, 2022
DT Christian Wilkins
(I see you have a throwback logo on today. What are the odds that you’ll play in throwback jerseys this week? I know it’s after a three-game losing streak.) – “What are the odds? I mean I just wear what I wear on game day. I don’t know the odds. I don’t know what it’s looking like or what goes into that. I just show up and play on Sundays. It’s cool when you get to wear the throwbacks because of what they mean. It’s cool to have a little switch up and things like that, and the history that we have as an organization and stuff. It’s cool and fun to wear the throwbacks, but I just show up on Sunday. What we’re wearing is what we’re wearing. That’s how I roll.”
(Do you value the throwback uniforms when it is a switch up? Because a lot of fans want it to be permanent.) – “I think it’s a treat and those games are a little more special. It’s a little more exciting. I know the fans enjoy it. I know the players on the team enjoy it a little bit more. I think it’s nicer when it’s more of a treat than when it’s a permanent thing.”
(T Terron Armstead mentioned your technique is the first thing that stands out about your game and watching you play through players and play around them, whatever the case may be – one gap, two gap – it seems like it’s all kind of coming together for you. Now that you’re in Year 4, do you feel it slowing down for you? Do you feel that technique take hold stronger?) – “Well, it never really fully slows down. It’s a fast game. And the way offenses try to attack defenses and specific players nowadays, it’s never really slow. But I just try to work hard to slow the game down as much as I possibly can and make sure my technique is as sharp as it can be. It really just starts in practice. Players holding each other accountable in our d-line room – (Defensive Line Coach Austin) Clark and (Assistant Defensive Line Coach) Derek (LeBlanc) holding us to the highest standard and really on us and coaching us hard. That’s where it starts and then to be able to do it on Sunday. I hold myself to a high standard to try to get things right because I know that’s what I need to do not only for myself but for the team.”
(Kind of along those lines, S Jevon Holland was saying that you’re the most scheduled-based and process-based player on the team. Tell me about that. You’ve found a process that works and things? Tell me about that.) – “Yeah, I’ve always been a very routine-oriented person, but I’ve kind of taken it to another level each year, just as I learn my body, understand what works for me, what doesn’t for me, my sleep schedule, my workout schedule, things like that. You pretty much know where to find me any day at any point based off my routine, because it doesn’t really change. There’s times where you might need a little wrinkle if there’s burnout or if it’s getting too tedious. But for the most part, just so I know that I’m a sharp as I need to be and everything all the work gets done that I need to get done week-in and week-out, the schedule, the routine pretty much remains the same.”
(What degree do you take that? Are there times that you’re doing something and you’re almost laughing like, “Well, I’m doing this because I’ve always done it?”) – “No, I’m pretty intentional and, a Mike (McDaniel) word, deliberate with my routine It’s not just a checking the box thing. I’m really intentional about it. I’m that way too so nothing throws me off from getting my work done – not family coming in town for our holiday, not, ‘Hey, Christian, we’re doing this. Come hang.’ No, I need to do my work. That’s what it is.”
(How do you describe the season that you’re having? When I say the season, I mean, individually, because it looks to us like, would you say it’s your best year?) – “I guess, but you’re just never really satisfied as a player. It’s just funny, because people might say it’s my best year, but there’s a lot I feel like I leave out there. I always feel like a play I can make or something I can do, win lose draw, if it’s the best game of my career or the worst game, I always look at myself and I’m a pretty harsh judge trying to figure out what I can do. But also with that having a little bit of perspective. I definitely feel like I’ve gotten better each year and understanding that. But yeah, I don’t really try to think about stats. I don’t try to think about things. I just try to worry about getting better each time I touch the field, whether it’s in practice, a walkthrough or a game.”
(I know that you said before, you’re a guy who treats every game the same. You guys are getting down to some games that could get you into the playoffs and excitement is building among the fans. How do you balance that?) – “Playoffs? Playoffs? (laughter) Well, no – we’re just trying to try to win the game. No, we just take it week by week and go from there. I try to – again, because of my routine and how I am in my process, I try to treat every game like it’s the Super Bowl so that way when you’re playing a random game in October, to people it might not matter but they all matter, you know what I mean? Because when you lose games, you figure out how important they are. You might not think things are important or December has more meaningful football, but to me, they’re all important. They’re all meaningful, because they all help you in the end, in the long run, to get to your ultimate goal and get better each week. So that’s how I look at it.”
(This is the second three-game losing streak that you guys have had this season. What are some good habits that you all learned from the first one that you can compare to this one? And the bad habits, have you identified those?) – “Well, the biggest thing is I feel like the first time, there was like a decision amongst leaders in the locker room, the team, the coaches like, ‘Alright, we’re going to get out of this.’ And it was just like, this happens. There’s ebb and flows throughout the course of a season, but we all just kind of looked at each other, like, ‘Alright, well, we’re just going to practice harder. We’re going to do things better. We’re going to try to do things in a better way,’ to where that we can kind of shake the losses off or get out of the losing streak. And right now, it’s no different. You always want to be on a trajectory where you’re rising and going in the right direction, but now it’s like just finding ways to strain a little bit, more sacrifice a little bit more for yourself and each other.”
(What are your feelings right now toward coming back home after these three road losses?) – “It’s definitely good to always get back home in front of the home crowd, in front of the home fans. I love playing in that stadium. I think we’ve got the best stadium in all of the league. It’s just fun to play there and everything like that, so it’ll be good to switch it back up and be back home. It’ll be nice, especially it being the holiday and everything, just to hopefully take care of business and then enjoy the holiday at home.”
(Will it mean something to you to play on Christmas Day? I know that’s a big thing in the NBA.) – “Absolutely. Absolutely, it means a lot because I grew up watching NFL football. When I was younger, too, that was it – it would be snowing outside. You go outside, you play like a football game with the neighborhood kids on Christmas kind of thing like that. So to me, I’m kind of having that kid excitement a little bit, getting to play a game on the holiday and everything like that. So I’m looking forward to it. I try to take most things like – I always try to have good perspective, and it’s definitely a blessing to be able to play at the highest level and on Christmas Day with everyone watching.”
(I know you’re looking ahead to Green Bay, but now that the sting of the loss Saturday has passed, you have good perspective on things. You’ve been here obviously, for lopsided losses against the Bills. Do you feel good about collectively where your team is now where you can go toe to toe with a team that’s been the leader in the division?) – “I mean, there’s no moral victories or anything like that. We did beat that team before, and to your point, we were close to doing it again up at their place. We know we’re a good team. We approach things the right way around here, but there are no moral victories. You want to win every game you play in and that’s as simple as that goes. It’s not like – at least to me, I don’t look at it as like, ‘Oh, we were so close guys.’ It’s just like be our best, do the most you can each week to make sure we get the result that we want to get.”
(Two-parter for you on LB Jaelan Phillips. You mentioned your routine and your process, it seems like he’s pretty on that same track as well. Is that something you’d agree with? And then he’s made a big jump in kind of the second half of the season? What has kind of attributed to that for him do you think?) – “Yeah, Jaelan (Phillips), he’s like me in a lot of ways. He has his process down, he has his routine, and he has a way of going about his business that works for him. It’s good to see because he’s always looking to me or asking me questions on how to improve things and whatnot, and I’ll help him in any way I can. But I think that’s part of it, just his progress as a player and just him doing the things he’s been able to do this year. It’s just that he loves the game. He cares about the game a lot and puts a lot into it and that’s pretty evident – just how emotional he plays and how much he buys in each week to try to be the best that he can be.”
(What did you think of the shirtless warmups that LB Jaelan Phillips went through?) – “Hey, I mess with it. I feel like because of that, he was nice and warm and ready for the game. The weather didn’t affect him too much, but more power to him.”
Mike McDaniel – December 19, 2022
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Monday, December 19, 2022
Head Coach Mike McDaniel
(Just to get the intricate housekeeping stuff out of the way first, LB Jerome Baker left with an ankle. How is he? Where is OL Liam Eichenberg in his recovery? I don’t even think I should ask you about CB Byron Jones, because you sort of left it as not counting on it for this season, but if you want to add anything. So LB Jerome Baker, OL Liam Eichenberg, CB Byron Jones and anyone else you can think of?) – “Hm, I don’t know. I’m not sure if I feel as inviting about information today. (laughter) We’ll see. You’re just trying to do your job, so I’ll help you. (laughter) No news on the last, so we can stand pat on that one. What was the first one?”
(LB Jerome Baker left with an ankle.) – “Oh yes, he had a lower extremity, but he seemed pretty solid today. Unless anything comes across my plate unforeseen, I think we should feel very comfortable with him. Then the next, I don’t know when it’s going to be, just because you don’t – with Liam, I don’t know when it’s going to be. There’s been no setbacks at all, but I’m not sure if you’ve written about or if anyone noticed he was playing by far his best ball that he’s – I think PFF noticed actually, which is neither here nor there. (laughter) He was playing his best ball when he got hurt which is kind of frustrating. Our grades matched PFF’s, I guess. (laughter) So what I don’t want to do is rush the process with him and not build upon the good ball that he was playing. So as it stands right now, I feel pretty good about him getting a good week of practice in. I’m not sure what that’s going to mean, I don’t want to get ahead of myself, what that’s going to mean for the game. But I know it’s not if but when. So I’m feeling good about how he’s progressing, not taking a step back and I want his confidence to be the same as when he left. Was there another one?”
(I think that’s it unless there’s anyone you can think of that we forgot.) – “You would never. You would never forget. (laughter)”
(We spoke to S Jevon Holland about the neck roll and the stinger he got, and WR Jaylen Waddle seems fine. So you seem to be in pretty good shape. I guess S Eric Rowe and RB Jeff Wilson Jr., obviously, couldn’t go. Too early to tell with them or were they close?) – “Both of them were fairly close. I had to rely on my past experiences with Jeff Wilson to protect him from himself. As you could see, we have some capable depth at that position. I think that was a little bit on display this past game. He’s looking solid, hoping – he’s such a tough guy that I have to be proactive with him so he doesn’t do some negative stuff to himself or the team in that way, because he’s an important part of this team. So we’ll take it day by day, both of those guys, but it was definitely – I wouldn’t have been betting on whether they both would’ve played last game because I would have left myself vulnerable to some losses. I don’t like losing bets, that’s why I don’t bet that much. (laughter)”
(Is it a relief to be coming back to play at home after three-straight road games, including a lot of travel, elements and even a hostile environment last game?) – “I kind of knew what it was. I guess yeah, I love the home stadium. I feel like I’ve lived in Miami my whole life at this point, I don’t know why. Going to the west coast, I was like, ‘What is this dry stuff?’ I hate lotion now. (laughter) I wouldn’t say it’s a relief though. The point of that – we knew exactly what that trip was going to be like. We knew what those three games against good opponents, we knew it was a challenge and we were kind of excited for that challenge. We know exactly what we ended up doing in those three games. That definitely wasn’t the desired outcome, but at the same time, what I’m talking to the team about and what I think is very important that I really, really truly believe deep down to my core, is that if you’re going to lose football games, you should get something out of it. I do think – just moving forward, to make yourself better and to make that purposeful. I was very, very proud of the effort. I was very proud of the lack of excuses that were made by the locker room, the players, the coaches, in general, because now that I can talk about it in the open, yes, that is difficult – for sure. Time zone switches. But everybody has to go through their own stuff. I thought they approached it with a severity enough to get something out of it, because if you go half in or utilize excuses and you lose, it doesn’t really – you can just say, ‘OK, we’ll turn it up,’ and then you don’t really get anything out of it. I don’t see – that’s not to say that I see it as, I don’t know. I said something about asterisks last week about there’s no asterisks in the win-loss column about inclement weather. There’s also no asterisks for moral victories. So I’m not necessarily saying that as much as I’m saying that I think we allowed ourselves to utilize every experience because of our intent and our commitment moving forward, and if we choose to do it and if we execute all the things that we haven’t and utilize those experiences, we’ll look back and say, ‘Those were very beneficial, and that’s the point. Because when you go all in and guys really put forth their best effort under some challenging circumstances, human nature is to kind of, ‘(sighs) Here we go again.’ But I’m very confident in the human beings on the coaching staff, in the human beings in the locker room, that we’ll be happy to play another game. We love our home venue, but it’s not exactly like, ‘Oh, finally. We’re home.’ It’s more that we need another opportunity to play football because it’s a bad taste that you want to try to get rid of. You need some Scope (mouthwash). (laughter)”
(There’s no asterisks for snowballs. However, of the numerous entities that could have done something, I know the PA Announcer said it, but stadium security, police, referees, what could have and should have been done? And moving forward, where you’re possibly in the playoffs, what do you think could happen?) – “Oh, if I would take the bait. (laughter) I do not want to – I appreciate the question and I do not want to insinuate that I do not hold your question in any sort of low regard or anything. I don’t want to dismiss it, I should say. However, it is what it is. Like I said, the only concern I had was with players’ safety, specifically with the ice balls going at people’s heads. I know the NFL is concerned with player safety as well. So however it’s handled, it’s not for me to worry about. I should probably worry about coaching a little bit more.”
(There are different philosophies on what I’m about to ask you. I know earlier in the year, when the team was on a win streak, QB Tua Tagovailoa made a reference, “Hey, we’re not afraid to talk about the Super Bowl. We’re not afraid to use those words around here.” Now that you’re a couple of wins away from getting your foot in the playoff door, is it just Green Bay this week? Or is it Green Bay as a step toward the playoffs? How do you want the players to look at this?) – “I think the players have gotten reps at what I was concerned about that I really knew we need, which was football in playoff atmospheres. There’s a lot of young guys that it’s different when you have – I mean, that crowd in Buffalo was awesome. It was rocking. It felt legitimate. That’s the type of environment that you get when you build upon a season and there’s a lot on the line. I think specifically at the end of the season, you look less big picture, because in terms of the only way that you can really do the things that you want to accomplish, you have to give full intent to the next opponent. So I want them to see one team and one team only – the Green Bay Packers. What I do know is that game matters more than any other game. I think when you’re down the stretch, it’s almost like you do reverse. You can talk big picture and talk about the goals when things are far away. When stuff gets closer, it’s almost like you’re challenging yourself to be more locked into the moment than other teams, players, individuals, because a lot of games are won and lost that way. When you start worrying about things that aren’t right in front of you, which happens. A lot of people can start talking of what type of this game is this and you got to do this to this. No, I think you have to learn how it’s one game at a time or you are severely punished in this league. Down late in the season, you have to learn how to fully attack an opponent, because every single team that you play in these months have things to play for in one way shape or form, whether it’s seating, whether it’s getting into the tournament, or whether it’s taking out aggression on their lack of involvement in the tournament. It’s all – players really are motivated, and you don’t want to have self-inflicted wounds because you’re thinking about some games after the next. I believe there’s two games after Green Bay; they may or may not be in our division. But I don’t know. You guys would have to tell me. All I think of is I’m like a, I don’t know. I’m like one of your children and this time of year, all I think about as Christmas. Except this Christmas, there’s a football game. (laughter)”
(I wanted to ask you about your two rookie receivers. With WR Braylon Sanders, was there anything you’d seen in the opportunities you are able to see him work on the practice squad that intrigued you enough to throw to him Saturday? What was that that made you want to do something that you would have done with WR River Cracraft had he been in that slot? What skillset with WR Braylon Sanders? Also with WR Erik Ezukanma, has it entirely been a result of obviously veterans who are reliable ahead of him or has there been maybe more of a learning curve than you had hoped for? So on those two, WR Braylon Sanders and WR Erik Ezukanma?) – “So with Braylon (Sanders), he was – well, it just so happened that the first time, I believe it was the Detroit game, where he was activated, it was so late in the week and an injury came up, and he had prepared exclusively at the position that was injured. So he was able to get some live bullet experience, and although he did have a point of attack fumble, I look way deeper into the players’ experiences than that, and what I did see was a guy that the game wasn’t too big for him. In this specific – so he kind of got a leg up there. I also think that I’ve really seen Erik (Ezukanma) progress during the course of the season, tremendously. From a starting point perspective, it was interesting. He was probably as physically ready for the professional game as any young receiver we had on the roster. But it was probably the biggest jump in terms of schematically, hearing a huddle called and all that stuff. You learned a lot about guys with how their teammates respond to them, and I’ve noticed a lot of people gravitate towards him. He’s been doing a good job and progressing. So it hasn’t been anything negative in that regard, or we had to do X, Y, or Z. It was more that both of those guys had been really progressing, and then one guy got some game experience. And when he saw the opportunity, he had an injury in the meantime. But we felt comfortable with (Ezukanma. That’s a tough atmosphere, talking about at Buffalo, to have your first varsity experience since playing with some of the guys in August. I guess that would have been against the Philadelphia Eagles in preseason, which feels like a millennia ago. So really, they’ve done a good job. I’m very, very happy with them and what they’ve done with their opportunities, because Erik has practiced very well in his opportunities as well.”
(Kind of a two-parter for you. How do you assess QB Tua Tagovailoa’s performance now that you’ve had a chance to watch the tape? And if you did like it, how did you like his ability? Or what does it say about him to kind of bounce back from a west coast swing that maybe you didn’t have the offensive production you guys are used to? How did you feel he bounced back from those two games?) – “This game was really cool for me, because I had complete faith in where he was going to go. I think it took a couple games; he identified exactly what was kind of holding him back to a degree. Again, it wasn’t by a longshot, him, that was the reason for losing. That’s a collective thing. Or offensive efficiency, that’s a collective thing and all the skill positions know where they played a part in it. But what to me, that I see that is so unique about Tua, what he was able to do is identify something that he could control. And in this particular game, I saw him completely correct the things that I thought were really holding him back in the two previous (games). It’s a very rare thing to do in sports is to have control. Really just the strength, the mental strength, it takes to harbor all the pressure, all of, really, how people just will undress every single play or really hold you incredibly responsible or have a narrative flip in two games after playing however many – it’s a lot. And I think not too many people are built for that. I think we’re seeing a young player that is exhibiting – that game against Buffalo, he was exhibiting some of the things that I think make him so unique and why I feel so fortunate to coach him because he learned from the two previous games and was able, in live speed, to directly attack those. I think, case in point, there was a sack in the, I think it was the first quarter, down by the 12-yard line, that he, in-game, recognized that he hung on, No. 1, a little too long, and then because of that kind of missed two and three; which in the two previous games, it would have really, really affected how he played moving forward. It kind of reminded me of the Baltimore moment, to be honest, where he identified, ‘Oh, I’m forcing something,’ and then immediately has the mental fortitude to go back and persevere. There was another one in the third quarter, I believe the first drive of the third quarter, where he’s dropping back and he’s hanging on (Jaylen) Waddle for a quick route, and they’re not on the same page, which, in the heat of the moment, you could either do one or two things – you can get down on yourself because you didn’t anticipate what he was doing, or you can get down on Waddle, or you can move on to the next play. It was a throw that got batted down directly, like a Dikembe Mutombo swat. The very next play, he threw a 67-yard touchdown.”
Tua Tagovailoa – December 17, 2022 (Postgame)
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Postgame – Buffalo
QB Tua Tagovailoa
(As you’re watching that last drive, what’s going through your mind after not being able to get into field goal range?) – “First off, we’re playing a really good team in a tough environment, and we understood all of that. They executed well throughout that drive. There were some plays that I know that we wish we could have had back on both sides, defensively and offensively, but they executed better on that last drive, and they did more than we did to come out with the win. It was tough to see that, but that’s just the way the game goes sometimes.”
(What are your feelings of watching that unfold when you want an opportunity to get the ball back?) – “Yeah, offensively we wanted an opportunity, but if you look at how the game went as well, we did have opportunities and we didn’t execute the way we said we wanted to on all our drives. But needless to say, all credit to the Bills defense, to their coaches, to their DC, for the way they came out and game-planned against us. If this is how games are going to be, down to the wire, then then so be it. It really shows you know how much you need to execute offensively, defensively, in the special teams, in all phases of the game to come out with a win against a team like this.”
(How did the run game affect the offense today?) – “I think it opened up things for us offensively like it has in previous games where we’ve found success in the pass game. We were balanced. We did have opportunities where we could run RPOs, and then there were times where it’s, ‘Hey, mano a mano.’ You guys know we’re going to run with the personnel we have in the game, and we just try to out execute the opposing team. So we found success tonight in the passing game also due to how efficient we were running the ball.”
(Did you come into the game, intending to run the way you did? Or did you see that the run game was working and just stuck with it?) – “We came into the game wanting to run the ball, get everyone situated upfront with the linemen, with our receivers kind of hitting a couple blocks before we decided to open up the passing game. But we really wanted to establish ourselves in the run game this game. Really, that was the game plan, and we built off of that throughout the game.”
(Now 0-3, that’s not where you want to be, but as a leader and as a captain, what do you tell the guys to get them bouncing back and get them right?) – “I would say I’m very proud of the way our leaders stepped up in this game. In some of the biggest moments, in crucial moments of the game, our leaders had made big plays in this game. I think our team is taking a step in the right direction, but it’s tough when a lot of the guys on the team have that, ‘it’s my fault’ mentality to not go into a deep hole. I think that’s the learning lesson for everyone, me included, that we have four quarters. We don’t have to press. We don’t have to get down on ourselves. They’re good too. They’re going to make plays, and that’s why you learn to trust. That’s why it’s, in my opinion, the greatest team sport that if our defense gets us the ball, they trust that we have to go and put points on the board. That’s all it is. I’m just really proud of our guys. They came out and the environment was electric. The atmosphere was crazy, a little chilly, but regardless of that, I think we played we played a great game.”
(You’re down to your last three games and the playoffs are on the line. The margin for error gets very small. What’s this team’s mindset going into this last stretch?) – “I think for our team, for us in general, we’re not looking at, ‘Hey, we need to win this game and the next game in the following game. Alright, we’ve came back home with three losses. Why in this game did we come out with a loss? What can we get better from this loss to go into next week to improve our chances to win?’ I would say I’m a very optimistic person; I like to look at all the goods that our team has displayed tonight against a really tough divisional opponent. I’ve said this in many, many interviews and I’ll continue to say this, we’ll look at the film. We’ll hope to get better at the things that we may have made mistakes at and hopefully we can turn the page quick.”
(Do you feel better this game than you did the last couple when you leave the stadium today? Do you feel any different than you did the last couple of weeks?) – “Well a loss is a loss, regardless of how I played or not.”
(Well not you, overall.) – I think because I would say when I come up here, I feel the pressure of how we perform offensively. I think we performed to how we think we can, but regardless of that, it sucks losing. So regardless of how much stats our guys had offensively or defensively, we lost. So none of the guys in there really care. If I threw four interceptions and we came out with a win, I mean, the guys would be excited. I mean, I’d be excited, but also disappointed at my performance. But just the grand scheme of things, we’re in this business to win.”
I was curious, there were a couple situations where you guys were second-and-short and decided to pass. Head Coach Mike McDaniel said he wanted to stay ahead of the Bills defense. What did you see from the guys and the defense with the way they were running to the ball?) – “They had many looks. They had some really good adjustments. At the end of the day, it just comes down to execution – who’s executing what’s called better. So, that’s all it was.”
(How do you feel like you handled the elements today? And how many snowballs did you get hit by?) – “I thought we, as a team, handled the elements pretty well for a team that comes from 80-degree weather. I think for our team, after this performance, we’re able to put that to rest that we can’t play in cold weather, or we can’t compete against cold weather teams. Their fans are electric. Thank God, I wasn’t hit by a snowball, but there were some near misses. There were some near misses on the sideline.”
(There were a couple of opportunities where you settled for three instead of six. What went wrong in those sequences?) – “Just execution for us on our part. You’ve got to give credit to their defense – their defense was really good. They’ve been playing together for some time, so you expect that in crucial situations from those guys. I’d also like to give a shout out to the Bills Mafia, their fans, that when – I remember when I had my concussion, they started a whole ordeal of donating to my foundation. That hasn’t been lost – I just want to throw that out and just say that I really appreciate that.”
Mike McDaniel – December 17, 2022 (Postgame)
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Postgame – Buffalo
Head Coach Mike McDaniel
(Obviously, that was a tough one. What did you tell your team just now?) – “That it’s a result-oriented business, but there’s good and bad from it. I think guys were so invested, coaches and players alike, and we had a very good performance against a very, very good team. OK? We almost did it because of preparation. I think there’s a little in-game stuff that I really want to improve on, where when someone makes a play, the next play, you’re not down – you’re ready to compete for the next play. I think we let some plays snowball for some of the game. That’s to the credit of the Buffalo Bills, that is a really, really good football team that plays hard and is fundamentally sound. That’s why they’re so hard to beat at home. On the positive side, I think that is night and day from the football we’ve played since the bye. So had we played like that for the whole season, we’d be feeling a lot different because it wouldn’t be the third loss in a row. So I think perspective is important and I think there’s stuff to learn from it. It’s a gut check for sure, but I know the guys aspire to be great. Well, this is one thing that only great people can do is really go all in, really invest, spend a lot of time and do everything the right way and still come up short. That’s football – that’s what happens when you play really good football teams on their home turf.”
Obviously, you want to run the football in this game. It’s been tough sledding last couple of weeks, what were you able to do tonight, to get that running game as effective as it was?) – “I think it started with the running backs. They knew it was their time; they wanted to carry the load. They had the right mindset, and it’s a credit to the offensive line for really going after a team that plays hard, that if you don’t go after they make you look pretty stupid, pretty fast. So I think that – I’m not sure what we ended up with, but anytime you play a team and whatever week it is, the 14th or 15th week of the season, and they’ve given up I think three games around 150 (rushing yards) and everything else below that rushing, they should be proud of it because it was deliberate work that was collected. The wideouts were blocking, the quarterback was doing a good job.”
(Do you feel you got away from the ground game a little bit as the game went on? Do you wish you would have stuck with it a little more?) – “I mean you have to – in a game like that, you have to kind of stay ahead of what the defense is doing. I think when they adjust – we had to give them a reason to play single safety. I think they played four snaps of man the first time we played them. So you have a choice – you can either play scared, or you can try to you know continue doing what your offense is built to do and if they’re blitzing five-man pressures to stop the run, it’s going to get ugly. I was fine with the way the game went and I think all of our players would, if given the opportunity, the offensive line and the running backs believe in our receivers and quarterback, and you have to play to each other and take what the defense is getting giving you.”
(How would you describe what you saw taking place on that final drive? Were there any thoughts to let the Bills score once they got so close to the end zone?) – “Yeah, there was a thought, but I mean, that’s the reason if you guys were watching the game, they didn’t score a touchdown and they went to third-and-1 and then they kneeled it. So yeah, there was thought to it, but they weren’t going to allow us to do that. They get paid too and they’re pretty smart coaches. We were trying to – once they got past the long field goal, that was obviously the thought, but they were going to make sure that the field was the last play the game, so credit to them. They did what they needed to do to win the football game.”
(Leading up to the game, the weather played a huge role and factor. I want to know because once the elements really came down, it seems like that’s when the game kind of got away. So how much impact do you attribute to weather?) – “I don’t at all, no. I mean, it was a football game. Yeah, it did start snowing. I think we moved the ball to the high 40-yard line and we threw a slant that wasn’t complete, so then we had to punt. I know a lot of people would like to make it about the weather; our team never did. It was cool for you guys to talk about, but it was more about football players on the football field, because again, any competitor worth their weight, you’re playing in the same elements.”
(To compete at this level in those wintery conditions, does that give this team confidence going forward would you have to…?) – “I think it’s cool to go through the first time of snow game. It’s really exciting. They had to feel questions about it all week and I don’t think they – we do play football in a warmer weather city, but I think at least we can put that to rest. For the guys that hadn’t played in a snow or cold game, it’s cool to get that under their belt.”
(An opposite weather question would be that once it started snowing in that last sequence, you showed no hesitation in putting it in the air several times and you were able to succeed at doing that. What does that tell you about this offense’s effectiveness, your confidence in QB Tua Tagovailoa and all that?) – “I think they would – they all wanted to do that. They kind of knew they’d be geared up to stop the run, and they looked at it like they had to win the game. I think they expected to, and we thought we had a chance to go put it in our hands. I think offensively, they really wanted that and just came up short. I really had a ton of confidence in Jason (Sanders), so we were really hoping on that last third down to get seven or eight yards to put us in a situation to try to get points, and we were unable to which was unfortunate.”
(From the beginning of season, you won three straight, so you kind of had a cushion as far as win loss record. You have three games left and it’s hyping up that these three games are going to be very important moving forward. Are you confident with your team bouncing back from this one and being able to close the deal?) – “I feel the same way that I (felt) the last three week. The one thing that I will say about our team is they were not feeling like they had a cushion – they’ve gone after it. I don’t think that has changed; it just makes it real tough which makes it more worth it if you’re able to do it. It makes it more difficult, for sure, because you keep getting the wind knocked out of you. The players have given me no reason thus far to expect anything other than the high resolve and determination to finish the season off right. I mean, shoot, you’ve got a home game coming up. Here’s the thing with football – there’s no such thing as a season without adversity, because you either experience it, work through it and then are able to continue winning games, or you don’t have it and then you lose at the end of the season. So it’s adverse either way. My main goal is coaches and players to see what I expect from them, which is tough-minded people with resolve and determination and aren’t going to let the idea that (it) being hard be the reason that they can’t progress. I mean that that should be the – to me, the second something gets difficult, you know you have a chance to do something that others can’t. That’s kind of a – from a competitor’s perspective, it should be a heck of an opportunity that I expect and I’m pretty confident that we’ll see from our team.”
(What was going on with S Jevon Holland and WR Jaylen Waddle, two guys that ended up coming back in the game?) – “There were some dings that I don’t totally know the story of. One was pretty – (Jaylen) Waddle, I really don’t even know what the diagnosis was, something with his hand. Jevon (Holland), he’s such a competitor. I’ve never seen him go out, so he ended up finishing the game. We’ll have more news on that, I don’t know when my press conference is but in the future.”
(What did you notice about your team’s performance in the red zone today? What went wrong in the red zone today?) – “It’s a good defense – the Buffalo Bills tried to not let us score, unfortunately. There’s some execution issues. There was one contested ball that you hope somebody can make a great one. There was one that one of our – we’re not in the situation to compete for this game if we don’t have Trent Sherfield, and the ball bounces some ways sometimes. Other than that, I believe we had a rushing touchdown. It’s just in games like that, guys will look back on that, you can kind of count points that way, but it’s also the game evolves and is a circumstance of situations. You’re not going to make every play. I thought guys did a good job. There were just a couple times that the Buffalo Bills were better than the Miami Dolphins. So they win, we lose.”
(How critical was that sequence where LB Jaelan Phillips and DT Christian Wilkins combined on the strip sack fumble, and you only got three out of it?) – I mean, technically every time we got three and not seven, you could say that lost the game – they’re all critical. That’s what the accountable people – as an accountable coach, that’s the way you approach it and you hope the players match that accountability, which they have all season. So I think every single time that we kicked the field goal, from our standpoint, we would say, ‘Hey, that lost the game.’ And then you’d expect the defense to say, ‘Hey, no. That shouldn’t have mattered, and that’s enough points.’ So I think that mutual accountability is the only way that you can really do what everybody with the Miami Dolphins fanbase and the organization really want to do. We’ve got a game next week, and that’s really all you can control. Right now, I think it would be weak minded of any player or coach on the Miami Dolphins to have less confidence from this game going into next week – that would just mean that they’re sick of being vulnerable. And if I have any say in that, that will not be the case. But they need to learn from this, they need to learn that the game in 60 minutes and that’s where I see real opportunity for growth more than anything. It’s not a turnover that we got, or it’s not a field goal instead of touchdown. To me, I saw hands down, frustration that I don’t want to see. People are going to make plays, especially good teams. So you’ve got to get used to really wanting to win and dealing with the consequences, even in drive, because they have to score. They have to be in the end zone. So that’s where I can see coaches and players need to improve from this game, because I think if that didn’t occur, ironically, before watching it, I think we would have won the game – that was the biggest failure.”
(Were the snowballs distracting?) – “The officials did a great job. I was just more concerned with the safety when there’s ice balls flying at people’s heads, and I think that’s what they were concerned with as well. There were several people that got hit – it’s whatever.”
Bradley Chubb – December 15, 2022
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LB Bradley Chubb
(Now you’ve had several weeks in the system. How do you see yourself coming along?) – “I feel it coming along well. I’m just starting to get more comfortable each and every week, each and every day. It helps when I’ve got the talent around me as well and just trying to learn about these guys, learn how I rush, how I play and learn how they cover guys, how the inside linebackers shoot downhill and stuff like that. So I’m still learning, but I feel like I’ve got a better grasp for the guys around me as well and they’ve got a better grasp of me, too. I feel like it’s only up from here.”
(You joined the team that has played Bills QB Josh Allen several times. How much experience do you have against him and how much do you feed off of other guys’ experience?) – “I just played him one time and then as we watch film I’ve been asking like, ‘Gink’ (Andrew Van Ginkel), Mel (Ingram) and JP (Jaelan Phillips), like against the tackles what they saw, what do they remember. Just a lot of different types of stuff I get tips and stuff on because the last time I played them was 2020, so it’s been a while and a lot of the roster has changed and stuff like that. So just want to make sure I’m going out there and being the best me. I feel like it’s going to be a good week for our guys on their edge so we’ve got to make sure we lock in and do what we know we can do.”
(I know a lot of coaches say they measure pass rush effectiveness by pressures rather than sacks. Are you the same way or does it bother you if they don’t result in enough sacks to your liking?) – “I’m not going to lie to you, I like my sacks, man. (laughter) I like seeing the number grow each and every week, but at the end of the day, that’s not what it’s all about. It’s about helping this team win and if that’s with the pressure of getting my hand in somebody’s face so he can’t see the play downfield and my dawg ‘Snow Man’ (Jevon Holland) picks it off, then I’m just as good with that. So it really is for me personally, you like the numbers, but the team overall you just want to do whatever helps the team win.”
(And has there been any change in the attention you’re getting whether it’s chipping or multiple on you here compared to Denver?) – “I feel like it was about the same. I feel like this past Chargers game I got chipped a lot, but they were trying to help the young guy out. He just gave up a couple sacks the week before, so I understood that. But at the end of the day when you’ve got dawgs like we’ve got dawgs, it’s hard to focus on one person. So it’s been a pleasure and honor to rush with the guys I’m rushing with and just trying to go out there and like I said, just be the best me. And hopefully that leads to sacks, pressures, whatever it takes to win.”
(And a quality that stands out to you about LB Jaelan Phillips as a player. What stands out to you about what makes him special and potentially a really, really good NFL outside linebacker?) – “Relentless. Just relentless. He’s got all the physical traits. Everything physical you could think of, he has and the thing that separates him is how he runs to the ball 30 yards down the field and how he reacts just to the different adversity that goes throughout the game and he never wavers. Always the same player, always the same guy so that’s what’s going to make him great.”
(What’s it been like working with LB Melvin Ingram? I imagine in the AFC West when you were a young player, he must have been a guy you looked at within the division?) – “One hundred percent. Yeah, 100 percent. Just always looking at him when I was young, just looking at him, I saw what tackles he was going against and kind of mirrored my rush playing off what he did the week before or prior to that, so it’s dope to be around him. You get to pick his brain, see how he operates, see how he goes about stuff and he’s probably one of the funniest dudes in this locker room, too, so that always helps. Keeping it light, keeping it fun. So it’s been a great experience for sure.”
(And out there in Denver you probably played your share of snow games…) – “Only played one. I only played one, but I know what it’s going to take. I know what it feels like. I know the Buffalo cold is probably a little different than the Denver cold, but at the end of the day, you’ve just got to block out the noise and the benches are heated, the sidelines are heated; so that’s going to be our main thing. Just make sure we handle what we need to handle on the field so we can get to the bench that much faster and be able to warm up. (laughter)”
Mike McDaniel – December 15, 2022
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Head Coach Mike McDaniel
(The likelihood we see OL Liam Eichenberg in uniform on Saturday would be what?) – “I don’t know – 50/50?”
(I know we’ll get the injury report later and there are some things you probably don’t want to disclose for a few hours understandably. Is there anything you want to share in regards to T Terron Armstead or RB Jeff Wilson Jr.? And if the answer is no, we certainly understand.) – “No. I think I saw an energetic and exuberant Terron Armstead in meetings. So that’s good.”
(Your “I wish it were colder” t-shirt. Where did that come from and what message were you trying to send?) – “That was not intended to be anything but something that is just kind of a mentality for the team. I honestly forgot I had it on when I was out there with your guys’ cameras. I think an experience, whether it was fate or whatever, I’ve only spent one year on a cold-weather team in terms of coaching for one, which was Cleveland. Every other team, I’ve kind of been a warm-weather coach. In all of those circumstances, you inevitably have to play cold games. Philosophically, I think it’s important to acknowledge before the day of the game what it is. But at the same time, it’s a football game where the elements are the same for both people. I think that’s a way of emphasizing something but not obsessing about something, was my objective. You guys have seen the shirts that I had for (the heat). The point being is we have a football game to play. I think it is the job of every player involved to get their mind right to have their best performance. The bottom line is I don’t see weather as something that you can lean on for x, y or z when you’re competing at a game that you guys do professionally. I think if a team allows it to be a thing, then it’s a thing. That’s our attempt to acknowledge the obvious and move on as fast as possible.”
(The team you coached with last year pulled off a big playoff upset in a frigid environment. What were some characteristics of that team that made it successful in the playoffs?) – “Early in the week, that team decided that it wasn’t going to be an issue. And I think that’s something that I’ve learned in the course of my career, that if you decide something is going to be something, the power of the mind is stronger than people realize. It’s something that can be embraced when you kind of realize that everybody is going through it as well. All of your teammates are. I think that strong-minded will is a characteristic that I’ve seen in this team. It’s gone through some stuff already as a young team. It went through stuff early in the season and we’re going through some stuff now. I think that can be healthy if you have the will and the spirit. I see a lot of guys that are capable of that and that’s my hope moving forward on Saturday.”
(You guys played Buffalo a long time ago, many games ago. What’s different about your team since then? Do you have more confidence? Have you answered questions that you had?) – “Your team is a steadily evolving organism, so to speak. That was Game 3 of the season and I think a lot of people were, in that moment, trying to prove that we were worthy of some of the better teams in the league to compete against. I think we find ourselves in a situation – any time you lose games in a row in an NFL regular season, there’s something that you feel like you have to go out and prove, just in general. But there are some different players on the field. The bottom line is none of it matters because it’s about preparing each day for one game that all of the games before and all of the games after are pretty much irrelevant. So on that day, who wants to strain the most, who wants to compete the most and then who does their job and relies on their teammates. That generally is the team that wins. So whether we won or lost that game, it wouldn’t really factor into this upcoming one, I don’t think.”
(Can you shed some light on where S Eric Rowe and DB Elijah Campbell stand right now? Those are two safeties that could be out on Saturday, right?) – “That’s right. So Elijah is currently in the concussion protocol. So you can ask the doctor about that one. And then as far as Rowe, I don’t think we will be seeing him on Saturday night.”
(You’re an introspective guy. That’s pretty clear. I wondered how much in recent weeks have you spent time thinking after games, the last couple of weeks, about how much of a running team you want to be? Obviously, you’ve passed the ball very well most of the season. It’s been a pass heavy team. Running the ball more, is that something you’ve given thought to after last couple of games?) – “I think one potential mistake that can come across a decision-maker’s board is at any time not critically assessing what and why of everything. That is no different than when we were on a winning streak for me. I’ve always valued the run game. I think you guys have followed my career enough to know that I’ve been involved in it and have always really seen the line of scrimmage as the place where games are won and lost. Whether you’re running or passing the ball, you are distributing it from the quarterback to another human being. So what is that? How does that affect the line of scrimmage? Because that’s the ultimate starting point for moving the ball, getting into scoring position and scoring points. I think that each game presents different obstacles and scenarios. So you look at everything and say, ‘Where’s our matchups? How can we do things well? And what gives us the best chance to win?’ I don’t think I’ve, really, this season felt like, me personally, that I’ve done the job I totally want to in that area. So it’s always a focus, but I don’t prioritize anything over what’s the best thing for the team for that game, regardless of how I wish or don’t wish to play football games. I think there’s an integrity part that you have to do what the best is for the team, and every time we lose, it’s very logical. I mean, you could make an argument that part of the reason we lost is because of that – because of decisions not to run it or whatever. That’s the case of the National Football League and the position that I’m in. I do prioritize it. I look at each and every week where we’re at and assess have we gotten better from the last? I know it was a light practice, but I feel like we have improved over the course of the season and specifically learned some very, very valuable lessons in this past game, where we can kind of control the line of scrimmage and possibly run the ball better. I think that when you’re able to control the clock and have the ball, that’s always an advantage so that won’t change. Hopefully, we’ll be happier with our output this coming week in the great weather.”
(How much progress has T Eric Fisher made with another week with the organization, albeit a short week?) – “Yeah, it’s a lot of progress, considering he went zero-to-60 really quick. He’s doing a good job, and you can tell he’s already assimilating into the locker room. When you’re a successful player for a long time like he has been, it’s a pretty steady process and then becomes very quick when you can take all the football you know, translate it into the language and then (understand) what is being emphasized. That’s generally what the process for offensive lineman, and he’s proven to be a very dedicated, quick thinker. I think he’s getting prepared and assimilating into the system and the team as fast as one could hope, really.”
(I’m doing something on advice and good advice people have received through their careers. Is there anything, off the top of your head, that someone has said to you that resonated and helped you or made you think differently?) – “Don’t lose. (laughter) No, it was – the first thought, I’m not sure relative on the scale how big this is, but the first thing that came to mind was a story that Coach Dan Quinn told me about never keeping any sort of piece of information about if something bothers you about a player or if you think they can improve, you have to let them know for their own sake so they can have the opportunity to fix it. There are sometimes that things can bother you about how somebody is going about something and the harm that it can do if you just assume that’s who that person is. If it bothers you enough, or just in general, you have to give them the opportunity to correct it before you judge really anything. He used a couple examples. The one that sticks out in my head was there was a guy on a team that he was on one time that had no idea that he was annoying a coach by the way he was dressing and would have corrected it if it was brought to his attention. I think that’s something that always stood out that you have to give people opportunities and it’s not fair to them, it’s actually quite the opposite, if you’re really judging anybody and how they behave without communicating with them and giving them an opportunity to fix anything.”
(A non-game related question. I’m working on a Christmas Day special. I spoke to some of your players yesterday, and I asked them if you could get a gift again that you received as a kid, what would you want? And the answers ranged from golf clubs, hockey stick and a Super Bowl win. So if I told you today, I’m going to interview Santa and talk to him. What would Mike McDaniel like, as a gift, and maybe something he received as a child he could get again?) – “I just went four different directions at the same time. So a gift that I received, that I would receive again? Or anything? If I could ever receive a gift again, one of the most magical Christmas gifts that I’ve ever had was in 2020, which my wife’s birthday is the day after Christmas, and so I’m always stressed out because it’s during the season, and I can never do it justice usually. Well, this Christmas, we were kicked out of California because of COVID, so we were in Glendale. And it was a rough time. It was a year after – we had a lot of expectations and it wasn’t going right. But that was the year, the first Christmas, that I had a daughter. That gift of family for me was very special, being an only child with a single mom. If I could ever experience something like that, talk to my wife and convince her that we should have a second kid, that would probably be the best gift I could get. (laughter)”
(I’m curious about the different way you relate to your players and your positivity. I’m just curious, there are coaches that read management books. Where do you get this from? Are you like a student of these management techniques? Are there coaches you emulate? Is this just kind of who you are based on your experience going back and dating back to your playing days in college?) – “There are certain things that I think I’ve been fortunate to be influenced by a lot of people. I also have a strong desire to do this job the right way, which I think is for the right reasons, which is to coach. So most of the stuff philosophically that I kind of do is reverse engineered. So what’s the desired outcome? Well, what am I really doing? And fixating on that probably in a super extreme way leads you to kind of think about things without looking at it like, ‘alright, well I’m mimicking something.’ I also grew up invested in football. But I didn’t really have a male role model. So I was kind of piecing together things as you go. A lot of failures. I think that combination of reverse engineering and then kind of approaching things without any sort of guide, you combine that with ambition and you just come up with your own formula that sticks to and never wavers from ‘am I making people better or worse.’ So that’s something that is exhausting in general, just because when you’re not following a roadmap, it lends to a lot of double-checking and second-guessing within yourself to make sure. But I think over time, you kind of realize it’s a lot simpler than people make it. Players, coaches, they want you to care. And if they see that you can help them achieve their dreams, they will listen to anyone that looks like anything and sounds or behaves whatever. The primary importance is are you adding value to those you work with? And as a head coach, that means everybody. So that’s where it starts and ends for me – problem solving in that direction. And then like I said, I was fortunate to see a lot of different coaches do a lot of different things, but never have I ever mimicked someone not out of intent, just because of learned behavior. I just try to do things for the right reasons. Sometimes that works out. Sometimes it doesn’t. But I think going at it at an exhaustive pace over time, you’ll end with the best results because again, people are counting on you to try to make them better. So that’s all I really worry about.”
Josh Boyer – December 15, 2022
Thursday, December 15, 2022
Defensive Coordinator Josh Boyer
(Of course without S Brandon Jones for much of season, you lost one of your better blitzers. I was curious if you thought blitzing has worked with the effectiveness that you want the season?) – “We’ve got some production out of it. We’ve given up some plays on it. I think people are more in tune to some of the blitzes that we’ve run and some people have had pretty good answers to it. I think you can time some of it up, do it a little bit differently and then obviously, you’re always aware of who you’re sending and what their responsibilities could be or the reactions that you might get from an offense. So I think all that gets tied into it.”
(We have to ask you about the third-and-17, lining up the eight guys at or near the goal line. Just what your thought process? I’m just assuming it was to get them to stay out of the end zone on that play and then it sets up the…) – “Yeah, so there was a timeout on that play and look, let’s start with every play call of every game, I would say that there’s nobody more critical of it than myself. Like I would say the first play of the second series, I wasn’t very happy with that play call, but nobody that’s watching the game is going to think much of that call one way or the other. But to reference the third-and-17, yeah, I definitely think that I probably could have put the guys in a better situation than that. It was third-and-17, I didn’t want to give them a one-on-one shot into the end zone. That was kind of the thought process. We had a personnel grouping out there before that probably would have been a better call. Similar concept, but probably would have been better call. The timeout, I probably overthought it a little bit and obviously you’d like all your calls to work. I’m fine with the thought process. I wish I would have put them in a little bit better situation on that, but at the end of the day, we still had an opportunity to come off the field with no points because there was a play after that. I think you’re critical of every play call and that’s kind of how I look at it in every game. You go back and you look and I think that’s how you get better, is you go ‘Okay, well, your thought process was this. Why did you do this?’ I understood what my thought process was, but there’s probably about, a couple other calls that I could put in that situation that we probably would have got the same result of what I was trying to get with maybe putting us in a little bit better position to defend the screen in that situation. So yeah, absolutely. I put a lot of calls on myself.”
(Quick two-part question on CB Kader Kohou if I may. No. 1, how would you differentiate his work so far this season in the slot and outside? And No. 2, what about his skill set makes him effective in the slot?) – “I think a lot of times when – I would say just over the years coaching corners, a lot of times I look at them as corners whether you play them inside or outside. Now, that’s a little bit easier to do when you’re a heavier, call it man-scheme team. But a lot of things that happen for the inside corner, the slot, the nickel, whatever you want to call them; is it happens a little bit quicker, they’re usually more involved in run fits and there’s a little bit more communication that goes into it. I think Kader has done a good job with all that, handling that. I think he has a skill set to play on the inside and the outside. I think he’s still learning. I think he’s still improving. And the good news is he works hard, and he takes coaching very well. If you said, ‘Hey, we got to get better at this, we got to get better at this.’ He’s going to work really hard at that to do that. And I think he just has a competitive instinct in him and he has the ability to kind of track and find the ball and he’s been able to work through some things this year. But I think he’s been productive inside and outside.”
(You don’t see a lot – I don’t think I see a lot of interior defensive linemen across the NFL that play almost every down the way that DT Christian Wilkins and DT Zach Sieler have been this season. It seems like their snaps have increased a little bit since DE Emmanuel Ogbah went down, but overall just can you kind of speak to what they’ve been bringing to this defense and the interior of the defensive line?) – “Yeah, I would say, and you look at it, they probably both went from – Christian probably went from like 60 to about 80 percent and that’s a high percentage for a defensive tackle. And I would say Sieler’s has greatly increased from probably a year ago. Both of those guys are very productive. They do a lot of good things for us in the run game. They do a lot of good things in the pass game. I think it’s a testament to both of them, their physical condition, because not only are you capable of playing them that many plays; you could see them playing plays late in the game and they’re running 20 yards down the field to finish on plays. As long as they can sustain at a high level, we’re comfortable playing them, and obviously, they’re productive. So it’s a win-win. But again, it’s a testament to those guys. And the work that they put in, the recovery process that they go through. Both of them have played through injuries this season, both physically and mentally tough. And all the while, they’re playing with high effort every play that they’re out there, so we’ve been very fortunate with those guys and they’ve been very productive for us this year.”
(You mentioned at the beginning, when asking about the blitzing, that some things have worked and some things maybe haven’t been what you’d hoped. How much of an overall impact has that had on the success or failure of the defense this year?) – “You probably look at all the calls that you run whether you drop 8, you send 8, based on, ‘okay, how are we doing?’ Or if they don’t work, why don’t they work? And I think you kind of look at that and again, the things that you’re doing well, maybe you try to tweak it a little bit to make it look a little bit different, but it’s essentially the same concept. I think we’re attacking the ball, we’re getting guys running to the ball, the turnovers – we’ve got to keep stressing that and we’ve got to keep detailing that to try to get those to come up because that will help us a little bit. But I think we look at all of our calls whether it’s a blitz or whether it’s a zone pressure, a man pressure, a traditional coverage call. I think we look at all those things and the people that we have and putting the people in position, I think you’re always trying to set yourself up to defend what’s been presented to you if that makes sense.”
(The difference in home and away splits for this defense have been drastic. What theories do you have as to why this defense doesn’t travel well?) – “Whether we’re home or away, I think you’re always looking at – we don’t always get the desired outcomes that we’re looking for. I think there’s been times where we’ve played good segmented football on the road. I think there’s been times where obviously we haven’t played very well. But I do think there’s some instances where we’ve played really good football. I think it’s just to string together 60 minutes of good football, to allow our team to play complementary football, I think that’s what we’re striving to do whether we’re home or away.”
(Since the last time you guys played Buffalo, what are the big differences in your defense? I mean, S Brandon Jones is not there. I think CB Nik Needham might not be there. LB Bradley Chubb is there. You’ve had the games where you’ve been on the field for a long time. Two or three differences in the defense between then and now?) – “If you look at the last drive of that game, Brandon (Jones) was out there, Nik (Needham) was out there, Trey Flowers was out there, Emmanuel Ogbah was out there. Those guys are a little bit different, but that’s just the NFL season as it goes. You’re always going to have to handle attrition and move guys in, move guys around. I think you learn a lot about your team as you go and Buffalo has obviously won a lot of games, and they’ve won some close games, and they’ve found different ways to win games. And again, we’re going to have to be at our best this week to play a complementary game and to win this game in all three phases, because to beat a good team, you have to be able to play complementary football and for us, that will be a big part of getting off the field and getting the ball back to the offense and keeping field position when we have it.”
(And complementary football, and I’m not asking you to point any fingers or blame, but the offense on third down conversions hasn’t been good. They’ve had short drives, few plays. How much does that play into you guys being on the field for 79 plays or whatever?) – “It doesn’t. I mean we have an opportunity to get off the field defensively. So again, I think as defensive coaches, our sole focus is getting the ball back to the offense. When we have opportunities to maintain or keep good field position, we try to do that. I think very little of what we’re trying to do is affected by how they’re doing. It doesn’t really change our goal or our thought process. So I think for us, it’s definitely we have an opportunity to get off the field and we need to work to do that.”
(I’m doing a column on good advice people have received through their careers. Little off the beaten path here. So is there anything anybody said to you as you were coming through or it could be anything about managing careers, going against a specific defense, anything at all that jumps out to you?) – “Yeah, my high school baseball coach used to say all the time, and I probably didn’t understand it at the time: “You live life forward, but you understand it backwards.” That’s one of those things that’s kind of always stuck with me. The other thing that he used to say, too, because he was our defensive coordinator for the football team, is when we were running gassers. Now again, this was in high school. He’d be like, ‘You’re not going to die. You just think you are.’ (laughter) So those are the two quotes. Those are the two quotes that I really kind of remember, but I do believe you live life forward, but you seem to understand it a little bit backwards, which I think applies to pretty much everything. It applies to being a husband, applies to being a father, applies to being a football coach. That’s why you scour all your film and even self-scout yourself, so whether you were talking about blitzes, a third-and-17 call or anything like that; you go through that and you try to learn from everything because the idea is you put in all the hours and work to put the players in the best position to succeed. And I think all of it’s a process. The three easiest things to do in America, to me, are complain, make excuses or quit. And I think people that kind of forge through – and that’s from my father. He told me that at a young age, so that’s another thing that’s somebody had said to me, and I believe that because you see it a lot. People want to point fingers, make excuses, or that it gets too hard, they quit, or they just want to complain about things. And the older I get, the more people are like that, the less I really want to be around them, which is why I feel so fortunate about the locker room that we have, the coaching staff that we have. Everybody’s accountable, everybody looks at themselves first and I think that’s what you do. And as a play caller, that’s what I do. So I look at all the calls that we have, and here are the things that we can do better and then you always look at, okay, are we putting the guys in the best position? It’s just like when you prep for the week, and hopefully you’re living life forward but you understand it backwards and those lessons that you’re learning as you go, hopefully it makes you better as you move forward.”
(You have three healthy safeties unfortunately at the moment with DB Elijah Campbell in protocol, and obviously S Eric Rowe with the hamstring. Can any of your five corners play safety if needed – CB Noah Igbinoghene, CB Justin Bethel, DB Keion Crossen?) – “Sure, we cross-train guys quite a bit and every DB that will be active this week, we’ll have all hands on deck. I think that’s why you teach things from a conceptual standpoint and you move guys around the best you can when you can. You guys see us do that a lot in training camp and then obviously, as the season goes, you get specific with things as we go. But yeah, I think we’ll have everybody ready and available to play a multitude of responsibilities.”
(And kind of out of left field on this topic. But did you ever give thought – you, Cornerbacks Coach/Pass Game Specialist Sam Madison, Head Coach Mike McDaniel – during the offseason, to having CB Noah Igbinoghene play safety? Is that a position you think he could play?) – “It hasn’t been a focus for him. I mean, most of his stuff has been at the corner position. There are some safety type roles that we’ve put him in before and that he does. I think he’s – obviously, we haven’t got to see him out on the field in the last three or four games, whatever it’s been. But he’s been working hard. He’s been making a lot of progress. And like I said before the Pittsburgh game, I’m excited to see what he does with his opportunities when they arise. I’ve been very pleased with his work ethic and the way he’s handled himself as a professional. It’s been outstanding.”
(I’m doing a profile on Head Coach Mike McDaniel. You worked under Bill Belichick. I’m curious, what’s the biggest difference between the way Coach McDaniel relates to players and Coach Belichick, and the way he relates to the coordinators?) – “That’s a good question. I haven’t really thought about it. I think everybody has their own approach. I would say the common ground between both of them is they’re both genuine. It’s different. I think both of their approaches is to get the best out of their players. And I think both of those guys, Bill and Mike, I think they do it very well. I think they’re just who they are … I think their personalities come out a little bit. I think the way that they approach and the way that they work at the game and making people better, I think is very similar.”
